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Site Admin   on 08/12/20 @ 15:59 said:

You don't need to be a Rambler affiliated club as far as I can tell. Rambler's seem to be selling the "we are exempt" line as if it applies only to them, but it applies to any organised hill/mountain walking group of up to 30 provided certain guidelines are followed. 🙂

The BMC has a handy pdf resource here:
http://www.thebmc.co.uk/Download.aspx?id=1913
and current rules here:
https://www.thebmc.co.uk/coronavirus-update-new-rule-of-6
Its a bit of a fag but doable as there are a long as you follow the rules.
Wales: 30 people can meet up (currently!) for hillwalking.
England: Rule of 6 unless the guidelines above are followed. If so 30
Scotland: As clear as one of their many Bogs! 🤔

Site Admin   on 08/12/20 @ 16:01 said:

Disclaimer: I like everybody else have no idea whether we are coming or going, and everything may change on the morrow anyway. ☹

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:33 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-grassroots-sports-guidance-for-the-public-and-sport-providers ) includes the following:
'In this guidance, ‘organised sport’ refers to sport which is formally organised by a national governing body, club, public body, qualified instructor, company or charity, and which follows the sport’s national governing body’s guidance. … Organised outdoor sport is exempt from legal gathering limits across all levels … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:34 said:

FOR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … This means that organised outdoor team sport and outdoor exercise classes, as well as outdoor licensed physical activity, can happen with any number of participants, as long as undertaken in line with published COVID-secure guidance. … Informal or self-organised sport and physical activity is not exempt, and must adhere to legal gathering limits … Organised sport participation events such as races and organised walks can take place outdoors but must adhere to legal gathering limits and follow COVID-secure guidance … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:36 said:

OR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … In tier 1 and 2 areas: organised sport participation events can take place outdoors, but participants must not gather or participate in groups of more than 6 people (unless from the same household or support bubble), and should follow social distancing guidelines. In tier 3 areas: organised sport participation events can take place outdoors, but only if participants do not mix with people from outside their household or support bubble (except in some public outdoor places, including outdoor sports grounds and facilities, where people can meet in groups of up to 6).'

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:37 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Further guidance for organised sport participation events is given here: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-grassroots-sports-guidance-for-safe-provision-including-team-sport-contact-combat-sport-and-organised-sport-events#organised-sports-participation-events

Some explanation following consultation with Sport England is given by the LDWA in the update posted here on 03/12/20:
https://www.ldwa.org.uk/library/coronavirus2020.php

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:38 said:

FOR WALES


Government guidance ( https://gov.wales/guidance-leaving-your-home-and-seeing-other-people-coronavirus#section-55526 ) includes the following:
'In most circumstances, the absolute maximum number of people that do not all live together who can gather outdoors is four (not including any children under 11). '

and ( https://gov.wales/coronavirus-regulations-guidance#section-46351 ):
'Anyone can play sport or exercise in a group of up to 30 people outdoors or 15 people indoors, if this is part of an organised activity … Children aged under 11 are also excluded from the maximum number in the gathering'

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:39 said:

FOR WALES

'Rules on organised activities' including that 'The activity must be organised by a business, public body or charitable institution, club, political organisation or national governing body of a sport or other activity' are given here: https://gov.wales/guidance-leaving-your-home-and-seeing-other-people-coronavirus#section-55530

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:42 said:

FOR SCOTLAND


Sportscotland guidance, in which ‘Organised sporting or physical activity’ is defined (in paragraph 12) as referring to 'activities which are undertaken in a structured and managed way following specific rules and guidance of relevant SGBs, local authorities or businesses who in turn have fully applied related Scottish Government and sportscotland guidance. …', is given here:
https://sportscotland.org.uk/media/6323/return-to-sport-and-physical-activity-guidance-261120-final.pdf

See also:
https://sportscotland.org.uk/covid-19/latest-sport-and-physical-activity-guidance/

M1960   on 10/12/20 @ 16:43 said:

FOR SCOTLAND


Government guidance for informal exercise or sport can be found here:
https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-protection-levels/

Site Admin   on 15/12/20 @ 10:39 said:

M1960: Thanks M1960, that kept you busy for a while. 🙂

M1960   on 20/12/20 @ 1:47 said:

FOR WALES


The links I posted on 10/12/20 now take you to a government web page for the Welsh COVID-19 alert levels. The quotes I gave applied when Wales was at alert level 3, but it moved to alert level 4 at midnight. Guidance for alert level 4
( https://gov.wales/alert-level-4-frequently-asked-questions#section-58322 ) includes the following:
'you can leave home as often as you like to exercise as long as you do so from home and alone or with members of your household or support bubble (and/or a carer).'

M1960   on 20/12/20 @ 1:51 said:

FOR WALES


A government guide to restrictions ( https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2020-12/coronavirus-control-plan-alert-levels-in-wales.pdf ) says that at alert level 4 'Organised outdoor activities' are 'Not possible'.





M1960   on 20/12/20 @ 2:10 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance for Tier 4 ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tier-4-stay-at-home#stay-at-home ), a new tier which came into force in some areas at midnight, includes the following:
'You can continue to do unlimited exercise alone, or in a public outdoor place with your household, support bubble, or one other person.'

I will keep an eye open for updates in the government links I posted on 10/12/20.

M1960   on 24/12/20 @ 19:46 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government sports guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-grassroots-sports-guidance-for-the-public-and-sport-providers) has been updated today to include tier 4 areas, and now includes the following:
'In tier 4 areas: you are allowed to leave your home to exercise outdoors in a public place - alone, with 1 other person, or within your household or bubble. You can only participate in organised outdoor sport if it is within these legal gathering limits. …. In tier 4 areas: organised sport participation events should not take place.'

M1960   on 04/01/21 @ 23:42 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance for the national lockdown announced today
( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home ) includes the following:
'You should follow this guidance immediately. The law will be updated to reflect these new rules. … You may leave the home to: … exercise with your household (or support bubble) or one other person, this should be limited to once per day, and you should not travel outside your local area. ...'

M1960   on 29/01/21 @ 19:40 said:

FOR WALES


Wales is remaining at alert level 4, but government guidance ( https://gov.wales/alert-level-4-frequently-asked-questions#section-58322 ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'you can leave home as often as you like to exercise as long as you do so from home and alone,with members of your household or support bubble (and/or a carer) or, from Saturday 30 January, you will be allowed to exercise with one person from another household.'

M1960   on 20/02/21 @ 16:17 said:

FOR WALES


Wales is remaining at alert level 4, but government guidance
( https://gov.wales/alert-level-4-frequently-asked-questions#section-58322 ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'you can leave home as often as you like to exercise. Exercise should be undertaken locally and must start and finish at your home or the home of your support bubble. … You can exercise in public outdoor places with:
. members of your household or support bubble, or
. with people from one other household, as long as the total number of people exercising is no more than 4 (excluding any carers or children under 11 from either of those households) ...'

Lazlo Woodbine   on 20/02/21 @ 17:24 said:

The tier stuff will be out of date on Monday. Boris says he wont use different tiers again.

Ruby   on 20/02/21 @ 21:10 said:

But its always nice to be kept up to date with the regulations.

M1960   on 20/02/21 @ 21:34 said:

FOR ENGLAND


The links for government sports guidance which I posted on 10/12/20 and 24/12/20 currently include the following statement:
'The guidance below is suspended for the period of national restrictions, but remains here for reference. During the current national restrictions, you must adhere to the rules set out above.'

M1960   on 22/02/21 @ 21:53 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'From 8 March, some of the rules on what you can and cannot do will be changing:
. you will be allowed to spend time in outdoor public spaces for recreation on your own, with one other person, or with your household or support bubble. This means you can sit down for a drink or picnic. You must continue to maintain social distance from those outside your household. This is in addition to outdoor exercise, which is already permitted ...'

M1960   on 08/03/21 @ 14:16 said:

FOR ENGLAND



Government guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'England is still in a national lockdown. … Legally permitted reasons to leave home include to: … exercise, or for outdoor recreation in a public outdoor space - this can be on your own, with your household or support bubble or with one other person (in which case you should stay 2m apart). You should minimise the amount of time spent outside your home, and you should not travel outside your local area. ...'

Lazlo Woodbine   on 08/03/21 @ 22:42 said:

However they are bussing teenagers from outside our area to sit indoors for most of the day with other teenagers from inside our area. Methinks this government is a load of poo poo.

M1960   on 12/03/21 @ 23:51 said:

FOR SCOTLAND



The document in the first link that I posted on 10/12/20 is out of date, although the quote from it that I gave is still correct. Here is the link for the new version of this document dated 12/03/21:
https://sportscotland.org.uk/media/6446/return-to-sport-and-physical-activity-guidance-120321-final.pdf

M1960   on 13/03/21 @ 14:54 said:

FOR WALES


Wales is remaining at alert level 4, but government guidance
( https://gov.wales/alert-level-4-frequently-asked-questions#section-65503 ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'Up to four people from no more than two households (excluding any carers or children under 11 from either of those households) can meet outdoors at any one time. … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 13/03/21 @ 14:56 said:

FOR WALES


(Cont'd) … However, we ask you to
. stay local. This means that you should not be travelling beyond your local area to meet with people.
. please try and reduce the number of different people you see. It is better to see the same people regularly than to see lots of different people occasionally
. please maintain social distancing and hand hygiene'

M1960   on 22/03/21 @ 14:08 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/national-lockdown-stay-at-home ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'Some of the rules on what you can and cannot do will change on 29 March. … From 29 March:
. you will be able to meet outdoors either in a group of 6 (from any number of households), or in a group of any size from up to 2 households (each household can include existing support bubbles, if eligible)
. you will be able to take part in formally organised outdoor sports with any number of people (outdoor sports venues and facilities will be able to reopen) ...'

SteveRoamingBiker   on 22/03/21 @ 18:01 said:

But unfortunately the guidelines on travel beyond your 'local' area have not been updated yet - or if they have I can't find it. Just have to see ....

M1960   on 22/03/21 @ 19:06 said:

FOR ENGLAND


The Roadmap ( https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-response-spring-2021/covid-19-response-spring-2021#roadmap ) includes the following:
'From 29 March … Guidance will set out that people should continue to work from home where they can. People should continue to minimise travel wherever possible, and should not be staying away from home overnight at this stage.'

M1960   on 24/03/21 @ 14:48 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government sports guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-grassroots-sports-guidance-for-the-public-and-sport-providers ) was updated yesterday and now includes the following:
'Where the rules mention ‘organised’ sport, this means sport which is formally organised by a qualified instructor, club, national governing body, company or charity and follows sport-specific guidance. If the sport is not organised by one of these groups (for example, some friends having a kickabout) or the sport’s NGB guidance is not being followed (for example, a football club ignoring the FA’s safety measures), this is considered to be informal or self-organised sport. … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 24/03/21 @ 14:50 said:

FOR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … Taking part in organised sport sometimes means that other restrictions such as legal gathering limits don’t apply when taking part. … Informal or self-organised sport is not covered by any exemptions. … From 29 March, the rules on social contact will change. People will not be required to stay at home, and will be permitted to meet outdoors in groups of up to 6 people, or as a group of two households, for exercise or recreation. … Social distancing must be maintained between people who do not live together or share a support bubble. … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 24/03/21 @ 14:51 said:

FOR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … Organised sport and supervised children’s sport and physical activity can take place outdoors in any number, but people should maintain the rules on social contact before and after sporting activity. This applies to organised outdoor (individual and team) sports, outdoor exercise classes, organised sports participation events and outdoor licensed physical activity. … Where sport is not formally organised, it can only take place within the rules on social contact above - in groups of up to 6 people, or two households. … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 24/03/21 @ 14:52 said:

FOR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … Organised sport participation events such as races and organised walks can take place outdoors and are exempt from legal gathering limits. However they must be organised in accordance with the guidance for the safe provision of grassroots sport (including organised sport participation events). … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 24/03/21 @ 14:56 said:

FOR ENGLAND


(Cont'd) … You should minimise travel wherever possible, but you can travel to exercise and take part in informal and organised sport, where necessary. You should not stay away from home overnight for sport and physical activity.'

(It's not relevant to this thread but, since it was in the quote relating to travel that I gave on 22/03/21 from the Roadmap, note that the Roadmap shows that guidance for people to work from home where they can will continue in Steps 2 and 3, so won't end until 21/06/21 at the earliest.)

M1960   on 27/03/21 @ 14:36 said:

FOR WALES


From today Wales is between alert levels 4 and 3, and government guidance ( https://gov.wales/frequently-asked-questions-restrictions-27-march#section-67231 ) now includes the following:
'Up to six people from no more than two households (excluding any carers or children under 11 from either of those households) can meet outdoors at any one time. … (Cont'd)

M1960   on 27/03/21 @ 14:39 said:

FOR WALES


(Cont'd) … However, we ask you to
. please try and reduce the number of different people you see. It is better to see the same people regularly than to see lots of different people occasionally
. please maintain social distancing and hand hygiene
You must stay within Wales. …'

(Just children and young people aged under 18 (or persons who were aged under 18 on 31 August 2020) can take part in organised outdoor activities.)

M1960   on 29/03/21 @ 15:58 said:

FOR ENGLAND


There is further government guidance on travel here:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do

M1960   on 05/04/21 @ 13:07 said:

FOR SCOTLAND


With reference to my post of 12/03/21, this document has been updated again, although the quote that I gave from it on 10/12/20 is still correct. Here is the link for the new version effective from today:
https://sportscotland.org.uk/media/6487/return-to-sport-and-physical-activity-guidance-050421-final.pdf

M1960   on 05/04/21 @ 20:57 said:

FOR ENGLAND


Government guidance ( https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'Some of the rules on what you can and cannot do will change on 12 April. … From 12 April: …
. self-contained accommodation will be able to open for overnight stays in England with your household or support bubble
. you should continue to minimise the amount that you travel where possible ...'

happy_on_a_ridge   on 07/04/21 @ 11:08 said:

Organised sport participation events such as races and organised walks can take place outdoors and are exempt from legal gathering limits. However they must be organised in accordance with the guidance for the safe provision of grassroots sport (including organised sport participation events).

The walks should be organised by a 'professional' person, such as an ML, who is insured, qualified, and has Covid safety measures in place.

M1960   on 07/04/21 @ 14:59 said:

FOR ENGLAND

happy_on_a_ridge: Please see what I posted on 24/03/21.

happy_on_a_ridge   on 07/04/21 @ 15:02 said:

M1960: Far too much to read through.

M1960   on 12/04/21 @ 13:42 said:

FOR WALES


Wales is still between alert levels 4 and 3, but government guidance ( https://gov.wales/current-restrictions-frequently-asked-questions ) has been updated today and now includes the following:
'There are no restrictions in place for travel into or out of Wales as long as you are travelling to or from a country within the UK or wider Common Travel Area (Ireland, Isle of Man and the Channel Islands). However, you will need to check the restrictions in place in the area you are travelling from or to …'

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